The question-and-answer platform, Quora, has an inconvenient format with individual content often difficult to access. If you directly answer a question that has been submitted out in the Quora ether, your answers are easy to locate, in a dedicated tab on your personal profile. However, if you contribute comments or replies as part of the conversation an answer elicits, the history of your remarks is not so neatly organized nor is accessing those contributions straightforward in the least. Hence, I have compiled many of my secondary comments and replies into this one, separate document. Direct answers I have written to other Quora users' Bundy questions - of which I have 16 - can still be viewed on my profile under the "Answers" tab, as can any ensuing dialogue my answers may have prompted:
Names of Quora users who provided answers, comments, or replies are abbreviated for privacy.
Q.: Have you ever met/seen Ted Bundy?
A. (by Andy B.):
Yes I have and it ended so horribly. He originally was just a regular nerd at Sammamish State Park in a stupid tennis outfit and a cast. He left with Jan Ott in his VW bug which he drove up near the bike path by the concession stand and tied her yellow Tiger 10 speed bicycle to the back bumper. I later saw him in the day but he was dressed completely different. In a Primo Beer tshirt and Light gray shorts. So I was a little kid and he talked several ladies to play frisbee with him giving them beers etc. It seemed so innocent. Since I was literally next to him for hours at the grass area of the smaller beach by the bike path but right before the sand. I literally also played frisbee with him and a few girls. I had met a strikingly beauty, much older then I (I was about 9 and I was talking with her outside the ladies room (there was a big line). She promised to play frisbee with me and gave me a hug and told me I was cute. When my new older friend Ted later saw us together he used that as the excuse to make his intro. He even introduced himself as my older brother but I did correct him and then he changed it to my good little buddy like a little brother. All so innocent and yet it became horrible when Denise hung out with him and later got in his VW bug which was parked by the bike path right before the sand. Earlier the life guard had told him to move his car but Bundy lied about waiting to pick up a friend in a canoe (surprise there was no friend). Denise left with him and she like Jan get murdered. He cut Denise’s head off apparently. She was so lovely and full of life, her laugh her big smile. She was so much prettier than her young school photo that made the papers. She had a very warm and silly personality. I hate the monster who had friended me and for the record. When he was taking to the electric chair he fainted and pee’d his pants in fear. I was so happy when he was electrocuted.
My [C.W.'s] reply (01/06/22, final edit):
Your story is creative, I'll give you that. But it's also wildly fictitious. Sorry to dump cold water on your fantasy, but you didn't play Frisbee with Ted Bundy. The last thing Bundy wanted that day was to be remembered, remembered by potential witnesses. He never spent more than a mere few minutes with each girl he approached, and he moved on quickly and politely after their rejection in order to remain unmemorable and anonymous. Ted was not there to socialize that day; he was there for the sole purpose of killing women. By your account, he spent hours playing Frisbee with you, thereby increasing his chances of later detection. But the established timeline of Ted's events that day leaves no room for “hours" spent playing Frisbee: from around 12:20 P.M. to 12:30 P.M., he approached two women, including Jan Ott. He was absent from observation from 12:30–4:00 because he'd abducted Jan. Back at the park by about 4:00, he approached four more women, the last being Denise, whom he left with around 4:30. There was another man of similar build and height at the lake that day also wearing an arm sling; perhaps he was the one you played with?
If you encountered both Ted, Denise, Ted and Denise together, and Ted and Jan together, why didn't you tell your parents once the girls were reported missing? They could've taken you in to provide such valuable information to the authorities, and cops could've called on you a year later when Bundy first got arrested and authorities were showing his mugshot to eye witnesses who'd been at Lake Sam that fateful day. You didn't report your experience, did you? I've studied the police files of the Lake Sammamish case and there's no story like yours in there.
But here's the most glaring question which discredits your story: why would Ted, his arm in a sling, be playing Frisbee? Potential victims would not have believed his ruse of needing help loading his sailboat onto his car if they'd observed him playing Frisbee.
Maybe you did talk to Denise at the restrooms, but what you didn't do was observe Ted tie Janice's bicycle to the back of his car. That process would've taken too long, allowing a greater chance for people to remember him, as well as providing a specific visual that witnesses could potentially attest to later. Ted told Jan there was plenty of room in the trunk of his car for her 10-speed. Also, if Ted had pulled his car up to the bike path - where no cars are ever parked, by the way - to tie on Jan's bike, more people likely would've spotted him, and no one reported that they did. Another reason your claim that Ted loaded up Jan and her bicycle by the bike path is inaccurate is a witness observed Ted walking with Jan, who was pushing her bike, toward the PARKING LOT - the route to which leads away from the bike path - where the witness already knew Ted's car was.
Finally, you are either fabricating or ignorant about Bundy's final moments before he was executed. Not one of the forty-two witnesses who attended the execution reported this pissing his pants and fainting that you speak of.
To your speculation that Bundy decapitated Denise, it's inaccurate. Both Denise's skull and Janice's lower mandible were evaluated by a medical examiner who determined the heads had not been removed by any cutting device. Animal predation usually accounts for a detached head in such cases.
Partial thread on C.W.'s reply:
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- C.W. (10/03/23): Sorry it's taken me this long to reply to you. You say, “Bundy shit himself" - from what source did you derive such information?
Also, here's an article corroborating the statement in my comment that the medical examiner did indeed determine Janice's and Denise's skulls had not been decapitated.
Q.: Who's the luckiest man or woman alive?
A. (by Victor D.):
In 1972, on a typical Seattle morning, Sotria Kritsonis, a 22-year-old student, was waiting for her bus. The minutes stretched into an hour with no sign of her ride.
Then, a moment of apparent luck: a friendly man in a VW Beetle offered her a lift, noting the absent buses on his route:
“I’ve come down Rainier Avenue and that’s a long way and there’s no bus in sight. Would you like a ride?”
Kritsonis, perhaps sensing the opportunity to still make it on time, got into the car.
But soon, an unsettling feeling crept in as they veered off course. The man started yelling at her, asking her why she agreed to take the ride with him, threatening her that she'd never make it to her destination.
Her escape routes closed off when she realized her door had no handle – a detail that made the situation even more real.
The man asked her to take off her hat, realized that something was different about her, and questioned her on her recent haircut; "Why did you cut your hair?"
It dawned on her that the man must have been stalking her to be aware of her previous hairstyle and recent haircut.
The car ride stretched on, filled with tension, until surprisingly, he let her out at her school. The hair she had cut a week earlier has probably saved her life.
Bruised from the shove he gave her as she left, she went home shaken but didn't report the incident.
It was only much later, while watching a news segment, that she recognized the man who gave her that eerie ride.
It was Ted Bundy, a name now synonymous with terror, one of the most notorious serial killers in U.S. history whose confession to taking 30 lives sent shivers down her spine.
As a woman, Ted Bundy is one man who has walked the face of the earth that you don't want to be sharing rides with, and Kritsonis was extremely lucky to have survived him.
C.W.'s reply (11/30/23, final edit):
Nice summary of the original news report from 2018, linked below. However, there are
numerous flaws in Kritsonis's story.
1.) Bundy didn't own a VW in 1972. He purchased his infamous tan VW in the spring of 1973. Granted, he could've been driving gf Liz's VW to abduct Kritsonis; but his end-of-life confessions which detail assaults in the Seattle area prior to 1973 don't include any incidents in which he was driving a car.
2.) Kritsonis claims she encountered Bundy during a snowstorm which was inclement enough that buses were either stalled or shut down. Yet classes were still in session at her college?
3.) The missing door handle Kritsonis describes is a significant problem. None of Bundy's friends who were passengers in his VW ever attested to a missing door handle. More importantly, the only confirmed assault victim ever to survive Bundy once inside his car (Carol DaRonch) was able to escape because the door handle was IN PLACE. That was 1974 when Bundy was an experienced killer. Are we to believe two years prior he had the foresight to remove the door handle for the Kritsonis abduction, but negligently left it attached for DaRonch?
4.) Kritsonis describes Bundy berating and threatening her once inside the car, as he's driving along. Yet never once during this one-hour drive does Bundy attempt to subdue or restrain her, a tactic he was infamous for. Bundy described maintaining whatever ruse he was using only for as long as it was needed. His practice was most often to knock women unconscious and handcuff them before pushing them in the car, or, again, as in Carol DaRonch's case, to handcuff them within mere minutes of their voluntary passage in his car. The only known case where Bundy didn't immediately attack or subdue a victim in his car was the unidentified Idaho hitchhiker he murdered in September 1974: he drove for approximately four hours before assaulting her. (But she was hitchhiking, not going to classes, so the duration of that ride would seem legit to her as a passenger.)
It would be extremely disadvantageous and dangerous as a driver for Bundy to threaten his unharmed, unrestrained passenger, who could easily begin attacking HIM.
5.) We're to believe that Bundy had been so closely stalking Kritsonis to realize she'd cut her hair (i.e., "Why'd you cut your hair?"). He was so familiar with her routine and habits that he knew she'd be at that bus stop. Yet, never once in all that reconnaissance did he notice she'd cut her hair BEFORE he offered her a ride. Puh-lease.
The long dark hair parted in the middle is such an overblown myth in Bundy lore. Bundy approached or killed plenty of blondes and girls with barely shoulder-length hair. He preferred long hair, yes; but an absence of that criteria never would've deterred him from abducting a selected victim.
6.) Kritsonis claims Bundy aborted his abduction of her, pushed her out of the car, and drove away. If anyone can think of a single confirmed Bundy survivor whom he released after he'd abducted, assaulted, or threatened her - a victim who could easily identify his face and his license plate - raise your hand.
I could continue punching holes in Kritsonis's story - and will do so at anyone's request - but these are the primary points of dispute. Sotria Kritsonis is NOT the luckiest person alive; that distinction is reserved for the true survivors of Bundy. Imposters and attention-seekers should be ashamed of themselves for undermining real survivor trauma by pretending to be one.
Partial thread on C.W.'s reply:
- Gayle L.-M.:
2.) Kritsonis claims she encountered Bundy during a snowstorm which was inclement enough that buses were either stalled or shut down. Yet classes were still in session at her college?
Sure, this makes sense to me, having grown up in Seattle. Seattle roads handles snow exceptionally poorly. There are a variety of reasons for this — the wetness of the snow, lack of plowing and salting, the hills, etc. With about a half inch of snow, the city is a mess with driving. It makes plenty of sense to me that a bit of snow collected, and the buses were having a lot of trouble, but the college hadn’t yet cancelled classes.
- C.W.: That's an excellent point. Thank you for the significant insight. Unfortunately, it doesn't change my mind about Kritsonis's lack of credibility.
- Tom C.: Maybe it was a Bundy wannabe, or just some other perv that had similarities.
- C.W. (12/21/23): Probably not a Bundy wannabe, as Bundy hadn't yet begun kidnapping and killing. But I agree with you about some other perv with similarities.
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C.W.'s comment (10/13/22) on an post regarding the Garden State Parkway Murders in a Space that has since been deleted:
Hi, Martin. Here's some additional information I think's important to include in the research you've presented. Bundy's "story" to Dr. Dorothy Lewis the day before his execution regarding his New Jersey crime was quite different than his third-person speculation with Dr. Art Norman several years earlier. Transcript from Polly Nelson's book, "Defending the Devil":
T.B.: Well, later on that same year [1969], in the spring, I went to Ocean City. Ocean City, New Jersey. And just hanging out at the beach, and looking at the young women, trailing them around. And my plan again was - I had never done anything like this before - [. . . .] so I was just stalking around the downtown area of this small resort community and I saw a young woman walking along. [. . .] I didn't actually kill someone this time, but I really, for the first time, approached a victim, spoke to her, tried to abduct her, and she escaped. [. . .] But that was the first - the kind of step that you just - that you don't - that I couldn't ever return from.
[. . . .]
I know that I, in Ocean City, I realized just how inept I was. And so that made me more cautious, and so I didn't do that again for a long time. [. . . .]
D.L.: Did you continue to stalk women in Philadelphia?
T.B.: No, that was that.
D.L.: Just in '69 in Ocean City, and you then stopped everything.
T.B.: Right, right. [. . .] There would be acting out and then, let's say, this first incident in '69, it was two years later before I did another one [. . .].
I theorize the reason Bundy had earlier alluded to his possible involvement in what was an inferred reference to the Garden State Parkway Murders was, he was toying with Dr. Norman (and perhaps authorities). Here's what Bundy later revealed to Dr. Lewis about his intentions during the similar third-person speculations with authors Michaud and Aynesworth of the early eighties: "[. . . When] I speculated, I would make sure to alter significant facts so the police couldn't say that I was saying things that only someone who'd been there would know [. . .]." - (Polly Nelson's book) Either he was enjoying the mind games of misleading, pseudo confessions to Dr. Norman, or he meant something else with his vague statement of "['He'] picked up a couple of young girls. And ended up with the first time ['he'] had ever done it." Who knows what "picked up" meant?
Also noteworthy about this case is, Bundy was questioned by the Florida State Prison warden the morning of his execution about his possible involvement in several states. He was asked directly about New Jersey and replied, "I can say without any question that there is no, uh, nothing for instance, that I was involved in [in . . .] New Jersey." (AP News, January 26, 1989, "URGENT Governor's Office Releases Tape Bundy Made Before Execution," by Brent Kallesta)
There is a 2020 book by Christian Barth entitled, “The Garden State Parkway Murders: A Cold Case Mystery,” if anyone is interested in this case further. I haven't read it, but several promotional articles for a novel he released in 2009 reveal Barth believes in the “very great possibility” of Bundy's culpability in these murders. He's given some interviews about the case available on YouTube, as well. (Again, I haven't yet listened to them. He only came to my attention for the first time yesterday.)
Thanks for your write-up.
Partial thread on C.W.'s comment:
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- C.W.: Thank you for your invitation and offer, Martin! I don't know that my comment is really worthy of its own separate post? It was more intended as supplemental material to yours. :)
Yes, I've been around this case and community for five years now. I started on FB and have since branched out to a few other formats. Yep, I've communicated with both Mr. Sullivan and Chris M., mostly through comments on community posts. They've both contributed extensively to the research, and both have been very kind to me over the years. :)
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- C.W.: Thank you, Martin! Yes, I have read your excellent post on Laura Aime! It was the first of your abundant contributions to this case I came across, a number of months ago. Very impressive! (I don't think I remembered you, too, had concluded Bundy was a malignant narcissist from your write-up, though; I'm glad another researcher supports that possibility - most people scoff at it, LOL!)
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C.W.'s comment (10/12/22) on a post regarding this popular photograph of Bundy, in a Space that has since been deleted:
This infamous image of Bundy has a myth long-attached to it - namely that it's allegedly one of the few occasions Bundy lost his cool and exposed the psychopathy behind his carefully crafted mask. The photo was taken on July 30, 1979, after the jury in the Chi Omega trial made a recommendation for death during the sentencing phase; it was published in the paper the next day. However, during his pre-sentencing speech the next day, Bundy himself vocalized his disdain for the choice of photo the newspaper ran, claiming it was prejudicial. He also explained exactly what was going through his mind when he made the gesture: he was cutting up, doing a Laurel and Hardy impression. You can listen to his audio clip here [UPDATE: the linked video has since been made "unavailable"]:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/94/ec/e6/94ece63002c504707e4ca27b3edb89c8.gif?fbclid=IwdGRjcARIDNZjbGNrBEgMyWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHgXZ1rnb-2w1oha2CooG-LylCTEgHhR3qi-yFUAhR5RWeCjetsbfIpCzZkg4_aem_24zFonAlB8eBEbj46hv6UQ
Photo from Bundy's pre-sentencing court address (07/31/79), sourced by Bundy researcher, Angela L.
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